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| ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
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| 1965 | Composr | core_cns | public | 2015-06-10 16:23 | 2019-06-22 00:52 |
| Reporter | Chris Graham | Assigned To | Chris Graham | ||
| Priority | normal | Severity | feature | ||
| Status | resolved | Resolution | fixed | ||
| Summary | 1965: More default messaging apps and social networks in CPFs | ||||
| Description | CPFs to add: Amazon (Wishlist) Bandcamp Dailymotion Discord Dropbox Flattr Github Hacker News Minds Patreon PayPal Quora Slashdot Snapchat SoundCloud Spotify Stack Exchange Stack Overflow StumbleUpon Telegram Tumblr Twitch Vimeo YouTube VK Baidu tieba Sina Weibo TencentWeibo Line Viber QZone PlayStation Network Xbox Live Steam Steemit DTube Mastodon Diaspora (Digital wallet, e.g. Bitcoin) CPFs have icons defined, these should be shown in CNS_MEMBER_PROFILE_ABOUT.tpl (likely will be a DB change to add icon support to CPFs). It should be possible to say whether a CPF shows in the main "about" section, or any one of the links section. This will also need a DB change to CPFs. | ||||
| Additional Information | This is covered on this spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_yaJeGzDIsxq33I7Wg9I-lTBDk3YS22WPBwJ971v5tI | ||||
| Tags | Type: External social media integration | ||||
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| Time estimation (hours) | 4 | ||||
| Sponsorship open | |||||
| related to | 2020 | Resolved | Chris Graham | Composr non-bundled addons | Big syndication expansion and unification (idea staging issue) |
| related to | 3350 | Resolved | Chris Graham | Composr | Pre-defined content system |
| related to | 2980 | Resolved | Chris Graham | Composr documentation | Social media integration review and documentation |
| related to | 3748 | Resolved | Chris Graham | Composr | Add TikTok and Gitlab pre-defined CPFs |
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Might be nice to add the Russian sites OK and VK. I have a VK account (it is available in English). Not sure about OK but it is also on the share options for youtube videos (so I assume both are popular enough to be included). https://ok.ru/ https://vk.com/ |
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VK was considered on the spreadsheet and rejected due to being too regional. For everything we support we're creating an SVG icon, and it'll be available for quick-setup in the UI, and will need to be maintained, so there are some limits on this otherwise it'll overwhelm (including users). However anyone can add new CPFs for things not available by default. |
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Here's VK's usage... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VKontakte#/media/File:Most_popular_social_networking_sites_by_country.svg So I wouldn't deny it's popularity, just it doesn't meet the criteria, and I think the criteria I've picked are the right ones. |
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Adding some more... PlayStation Network Xbox Live Steam Plus I decided we will do VK, and some other very regional networks (VK, Baidu tieba, Sina Weibo, TecentWeibo, Line, Viber, WeChat, QZone). I have been helping out a Russian user recently, and it made me think a bit. We're not all going to be one world socially - Russia and China and Japan all have very segregated Internet services, for cultural/political reasons. They're really another world in some ways. If we want to promote Composr as a platform for people in these countries, rather than either Western-centric or global, and if we want to keep translators happy, we should really do it by number of users. |
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Still no love for Last.fm. Their API seems to be working again (potentially allowing scrobbling from Galleries or outputting recent tracks on the profile). If Bandcamp and Soundcloud are there then Last.fm should be imho (I love seeing the history of what I listen to/scrobble). |
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It's dying I'm afraid, objective proof: https://www.rank2traffic.com/last.fm https://www.rank2traffic.com/spotify.com https://www.rank2traffic.com/soundcloud.com https://www.rank2traffic.com/bandcamp.com You can see it had "Internet phenomena" traffic, but has been in massive decline, and even Bandcamp is now bigger (and growing). Plus Bandcamp is a special case as I want to help Composr users sell things more easily (same idea as having Patreon links, Amazon wishlist links, PayPal links). |
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Well last.fm is more of a service/app that doesn't really require regular visits to the website for it to be useful and the traffic has halved over time but I'm not seeing an obvious downward trend on that graph over the last few years. Not arguing for it to be added but I'll certainly add it myself as I don't think it's going anywhere anytime soon :) |
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https://noisey.vice.com/en_uk/article/a37x9g/lastfm-was-the-only-music-social-network-that-made-sense Okay, you clearly have a point but I've used it since 2006 and I still think it's great. |
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Any data on financials? If it's making a profit I might be swayable. |
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Can't find any financial news beyond the CBS aquisition where they were trying to stem $4.4 million in losses. I assume they're breaking even at the least. Surely they won't they be operating at a loss unless they're doing it out of love and I assume if there were plans to close the site they would have been annouced way before this point (when everything went tits up with the site redesign everyone hated). No 2018 news to be found so nothing I can really persuade you with :) Let's just say, they've probably got more money than me if they've got £4.36 :P |
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I thought I'd take a look, and I was genuinely shocked/interested: https://suite.endole.co.uk/insight/company/04569646-last-fm-limited Their worth on balance sheet is -46mil, and they've been increasing debts of about 2mil every year. CBS is only keeping them alive because they hope either: a) someone else will take it on to cover most of their losses b) it will suddenly become popular again c) it's user base can be shuffled into making some hot new service take off d) nobody wanting to face facts / internal politics / embarrassment e) a couple million a year isn't enough for CBS to make a decision on it (they make $13590mil each year) Probably a combination of those things. |
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Well they are still active on social media platforms and still responding to feedback/bugs. Sounds like CBS tried to save it and ended up stifling development but I am hoping b) happens because despite the financials and redesign which stripped some of the features away I still use it daily. Perhaps it shouldn't be added as a default, it's more a niche for scrobblers than anything else but that was the main selling point originally :) |
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Added: Steemit DTube (built on Steemit) These are very new, innovative, with great traction, and are solving some of the problems of sites like Twitter and YouTube. So we'll include them. |
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Added Diaspora and Mastodon, in light of the #DeleteFacebook situation right now. I didn't actually know of Mastodon - it implements ActivityPub, has some traction, and effectively deprecates a whole host of other fragmented projects Still, Diaspora, Mastodon, and Steemit each have limited users. I'm only adding them here as non-commercial projects I want us to give them a bit of a leg-up - and they are more likely to get traction over an extended period as there is passion and social progress behind them. I'm hoping Diaspora and Steemit both implement ActivityPub, which is a new W3C standard that comes from Mastodon's family tree. Then we have all these alternative systems moving toward being unified. |
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Nice. Diaspora has been around a while now (since 2007) so I've heard of that one. Never heard of Mastadon or Steemit and I've not used any of these networks before but I approve of the additions (and subsequent exposure) via Composr. Glad you added DTube due to the many issues YouTube is experiencing (including lots of unhappy content creators). |
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Does Composr also work as an oEmbed provider now? If so, optionally allowing this social profile data to be embedded elsewhere might make this more of a profile feature than a profile addition. Moving off-topic, other media (galleries, downloads, etc) being optionally offered as embeddable content would be great for those who wish to provide their content to others (viral videos for instance). |
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oEmbed discussion is off-topic for this issue, this is strictly about adding some CPFs. There's another issue for oEmbed somewhere. |
| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
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| 2016-04-15 13:59 | Chris Graham | Summary | More default messaging apps and social networks => More default messaging apps and social networks (holder issue) |
| 2016-04-27 21:20 | Chris Graham | Summary | More default messaging apps and social networks (holder issue) => More default messaging apps and social networks (holding issue) |
| 2016-12-08 16:01 | Chris Graham | Description Updated | |
| 2016-12-08 16:09 | Chris Graham | Relationship deleted | related to 2020 |
| 2016-12-08 16:09 | Chris Graham | Tag Attached: Type: External social media integration | |
| 2016-12-08 16:21 | Chris Graham | Description Updated | |
| 2016-12-08 16:25 | Chris Graham | Description Updated | |
| 2016-12-08 16:28 | Chris Graham | Summary | More default messaging apps and social networks (holding issue) => More default messaging apps and social networks in CPFs (holding issue) |
| 2016-12-08 16:28 | Chris Graham | Additional Information Updated | |
| 2016-12-08 16:29 | Chris Graham | Additional Information Updated | |
| 2016-12-08 16:29 | Chris Graham | Relationship added | related to 2020 |
| 2016-12-08 16:31 | Chris Graham | Additional Information Updated | |
| 2017-10-27 09:53 | Chris Graham | Description Updated | |
| 2017-10-30 14:39 | Chris Graham | Description Updated | |
| 2018-02-21 16:23 | Chris Graham | Description Updated | |
| 2018-02-21 16:24 | Chris Graham | Description Updated | |
| 2018-03-04 23:01 | Chris Graham | Description Updated | |
| 2018-03-06 01:33 | Chris Graham | Relationship added | related to 3350 |
| 2018-03-06 04:44 | Chris Graham | Relationship added | related to 2980 |
| 2018-03-06 05:23 | Chris Graham | Time estimation (hours) | => 4 |
| 2018-03-06 05:23 | Chris Graham | Summary | More default messaging apps and social networks in CPFs (holding issue) => More default messaging apps and social networks in CPFs |
| 2018-03-06 05:23 | Chris Graham | Description Updated | |
| 2018-03-06 05:24 | Chris Graham | Description Updated | |
| 2018-03-06 05:24 | Chris Graham | Additional Information Updated | |
| 2018-03-06 19:45 | Chris Graham | Description Updated | |
| 2018-03-06 20:40 | Adam Edington | Note Added: 0005557 | |
| 2018-03-06 22:06 | Chris Graham | Note Added: 0005558 | |
| 2018-03-06 22:08 | Chris Graham | Note Added: 0005559 | |
| 2018-03-16 00:52 | Chris Graham | Note Added: 0005585 | |
| 2018-03-16 00:54 | Chris Graham | Description Updated | |
| 2018-03-16 01:58 | Adam Edington | Note Added: 0005589 | |
| 2018-03-16 02:03 | Adam Edington | Note Edited: 0005589 | |
| 2018-03-16 02:06 | Chris Graham | Note Added: 0005590 | |
| 2018-03-16 02:18 | Adam Edington | Note Added: 0005591 | |
| 2018-03-16 02:28 | Adam Edington | Note Added: 0005592 | |
| 2018-03-16 02:28 | Adam Edington | Note Edited: 0005592 | |
| 2018-03-16 02:29 | Chris Graham | Note Added: 0005593 | |
| 2018-03-16 02:46 | Adam Edington | Note Added: 0005594 | |
| 2018-03-16 02:58 | Chris Graham | Note Added: 0005595 | |
| 2018-03-16 02:59 | Chris Graham | Note Edited: 0005595 | |
| 2018-03-16 03:19 | Adam Edington | Note Added: 0005596 | |
| 2018-03-17 02:29 | Chris Graham | Note Added: 0005598 | |
| 2018-03-17 02:29 | Chris Graham | Description Updated | |
| 2018-03-23 23:18 | Chris Graham | Note Added: 0005606 | |
| 2018-03-23 23:18 | Chris Graham | Description Updated | |
| 2018-03-23 23:51 | Adam Edington | Note Added: 0005608 | |
| 2018-03-23 23:56 | Adam Edington | Note Edited: 0005608 | |
| 2018-03-24 01:14 | Adam Edington | Note Added: 0005612 | |
| 2018-03-24 01:14 | Adam Edington | Note Edited: 0005612 | |
| 2018-03-24 01:15 | Adam Edington | Note Edited: 0005612 | |
| 2018-03-24 01:16 | Adam Edington | Note Edited: 0005612 | |
| 2018-03-24 01:21 | Chris Graham | Note Added: 0005613 | |
| 2018-03-25 00:52 | Chris Graham | Description Updated | |
| 2018-03-26 03:48 | Chris Graham | Status | Not Assigned => Resolved |
| 2018-03-26 03:48 | Chris Graham | Resolution | open => fixed |
| 2018-03-26 03:48 | Chris Graham | Assigned To | => Chris Graham |
| 2019-06-22 00:52 | Chris Graham | Relationship added | related to 3748 |
